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Regulators adopt new attitudes toward financing
Excellent recap of what is happening to us! by Bernie
It's Tax Day -- Let's party like we work for GSA!
I consider myself a reasonably smart human being, but no matter how much I read about this government and how f'd up it is no one seams to have the answers. Can anyone tell me what else I can do, as a hard working American who is sick to his stomach, besides vote, because that isn't enough. I know the problem, tell me the answer. My thought is it will take someone with the biggest set of balls known to mankind to clean house. Looking for some answers, and I am all ears by Joseph Bullyan
It's Tax Day -- Let's party like we work for GSA!
And we wonder why our budget is out of control?!!? OMG!!!! We are to blame though - we keep electing the same members to the most exclusive country club in the world! They are exempt from most laws, get everything paid for by the taxpayer and are set for life - while we just keep struggling to pay them for that luxury!Worse, our two presidential candidates will raise over half a BILLION Dollars to convince us to vote for them! Actually worse - we'll contribute to them and elect them!Shame on us ... by Bernie
Australia, Europe, China . . . . pick two!
It would be interesting to know what the Board members that didn't vote yes on going into China thought and are they RV mfg. or suppliers? If any of them are suppliers they must have all their products made there already! by Tony
Australia, Europe, China . . . . pick two!
As a follow-up on this discussion, there was a very interesting article in the Washington Post last week and it was reprinted in the Boston Sunday Globe this past weekend. The article is titled: "China may buy only domestic cars for official use." You can read the article at: http://b.globe.com/GTIu6A Many of the comments at the Post and Globe indicate that there is nothing wrong with a country doing this - and I agree with them. We do the same thing here in America at the federal and state ... by Bob Zagami
Australia, Europe, China . . . . pick two!
As always, Bob has done his homework and presents a great editorial. I just can't see any benefit to having anything to do with The "China" Connection. I can't think of any Industry that has actually "benefited" it's American workers by joining with China.An American purchaser of an RV has multiple choices of types, options and price already! Why add an Asian Product to that mix - that will only hurt American made products - as it always has in the past. High tech products are mass produced and ... by Bernie
Australia, Europe, China . . . . pick two!
Bob, you’re right on!

The Chinese government cannot be trusted and they abuse their people terribly. If an RV manufacture decides to “dance” with a partner in China, it will be the fire dance, and it won’t be China that gets burned!
by Barry Hughes
The Chinese even knock off websites
I don't see a major problem with it.I just type the name then hit Ctrl & Enter and it goes to the dot com.Can not see why I would even type dot com then dot cn. by Wayne
The Chinese even knock off websites
This trick happens in all countries. Not limitied to China. It's cyber siting and tech it is illegal but that doesn't stop anyone from doing it.

If you are building a "brand" you often want to buy every version of your domain. Because even if you can get all of those domains back with the law from the people sitting on them it is just safer to own them all up front if you can.

by Aaron
Australia, Europe, China . . . . pick two!
Point of clarification from Jim this morning, the China Committee vote was unanimous but the Board of Directors vote was not.

Also, the sentence in the third pargraph from the bottom should have read, "We will continue to monitor China, not to prove somebody wrong, but to honestly report the information we get on the abuses we expect to see despite the best laid plans of RVIA." by Bob Zagami
 

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Wednesday, February 01, 2012
Dirty tricks or healthy competition? Dirty tricks or healthy competition?
By Greg Gerber @ 1:09 PM :: :: 9 Comments :: Article Rating
 

An RV dealer sent me this photo today and asked me what I thought of the tactic.

Apparently Camping World has erected this billboard less than 100 feet from a competitor's lot. It's message is, "We beat this dealers price every time." 

The same Camping World store hired a mobile billboard to drive back and forth in front of the dealership during an open house event last month. People inside the truck used bullhorns to shout messages at customers walking the dealer's lots encouraging them to visit the Camping World store.

Camping World has always had a reputation for being a strong competitor. In the past, the simple announcement that a Camping World was moving into a particular market sent shivers down the spines of local RV dealers. They feared the company because of its reputation for low prices and because the stores usually had a wider variety of parts and accessories than many of the market's dealers.

After successive quarterly declines in same store sales and some corporate missteps that bogged down the company for a while, Camping World may have lost some of its reputation as a market buster. However, the company continues forging ahead and, at the same time, defying people who had all but written the company's obituary.

I certainly hope this picture doesn't signal that Camping World is changing tactics from fierce competitor to fearsome bully.

"The challenge of leadership is to be strong, but not rude; be kind, but not weak; be bold, but not bully; be thoughtful, but not lazy; be humble, but not timid; be proud, but not arrogant; have humor, but without folly.” 

                -- Jim Rohn

 

 

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Dealer
# Dealer
Wednesday, February 01, 2012 1:42 PM
Wow! This is as low as it gets! Although I don't think this is a tactic of desparation, I certainly question the morality of this decision...
Aaron
# Aaron
Wednesday, February 01, 2012 3:47 PM
I can not imagine this leaving a good taste in the customer's mouth.

Putting up a billboard near your competitor? Great marketing.

Putting up that kind of message? Tasteless

As for the mobile billboard and blowhorns? I don't even know what to say.

Horrid marketing. Unless this dealership is just trying to make thousands on ever camper there is no chance camping world can win with those tatics.

I can honestly say I seldom come upon a customer price shopping a camping world and when I do they are thousands more than we are.
Greg Justice
# Greg Justice
Wednesday, February 01, 2012 4:56 PM
I could only imagine if the shoe were on the other foot! moves like this just bring the character of the leadership to the surface, of course we all know who that is. with plans for 20 more stores this year we could find ourselves with this sign in front of our store, then how would we respond. the time is coming for us and our industry to figure out what can be done for the long term best interest of the rv industry and our customers. with them growing in every state accross the country at what point do they become the Ma Bell, baby Bells of our industry? having very little competition wasnt good for the phone customers and its not good for ours either. the time here to start looking for ways to defeat the giant
RV Fool
Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:33 PM
Go to familytreerv.com and you will find the solution for this problem. The only way to control your own future in the RV Business is to be in charge of it. We have created a program to do just that.
Rick
# Rick
Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:11 PM
Not surprising. This is above and beyond fair business practices.
I've already gone a couple of rounds with the CEO of the Affinity Group(GoodSam, Camping World). I have a Life membership in GoodSam and its time I give my gold card back to them.

He just doesn't get it. The solution is for all RVers to totally boycott the businesses that are under the Affinity Group. Nasty business to say the least.
Bill
# Bill
Thursday, February 02, 2012 6:13 AM
Our customers are not stupid sheeple. Most will see through this like a piece of Saran Wrap.

If you can't beat your competitor with sound business practices, integrity, good products and selection then bludgeon them with "tactics".

If I were shopping for a boat, car, furniture etc. and saw this sign I DEFINITELY would stop in and shop with the targeted store JUST to see what the deal is. I think that would drive customers TO the store rather than away from it.

James
# James
Thursday, February 02, 2012 8:18 AM
I'm ashamed to be in the same industry with a piece of crap like CW .
That is the lowest form of business that I have seen.
Mark
# Mark
Sunday, February 05, 2012 6:54 AM
They are also offering jobs to this dealers employees because cw does not have qualified people to do the job. This is a desparate measure. I was offered a job with them and thank the good Lord I did not accept would not want to be associated with such as this. Thanks cw for the BUISNESS!!!!!!
jack naples
# jack naples
Tuesday, February 07, 2012 8:41 AM
Healthy competition is a good thing in fact many retailers like sprint, wall mart, progressive insurance, general motors etc all compare themselves to the competition. Even food companies do it outwardly.

Many of you including me post signs in our service department or parts department that say things like

"we beat camping world prices"
"we fix camping world repairs"
"we fix what camping world breaks"
"we are family owned so we care more"
"we fix camping world installations"
"we honor Good Sam discounts"
"we honor Presidents Club discounts"
"we have better products, better people, better service"

IF you have the resources you can do the same. It looks like the dealer is just tired of dealing with it and its odd that he did not identify himself. Stop hiding behind this forum.

How is this dirty? If the customer is offended that this would actually help your business.

Jack Naples

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